{"id":13414,"date":"2020-02-19T02:47:22","date_gmt":"2020-02-19T07:47:22","guid":{"rendered":"http:\/\/mhgoldberg.com\/blog\/?p=13414"},"modified":"2020-02-19T03:38:45","modified_gmt":"2020-02-19T08:38:45","slug":"the-myth-of-mvno-savings","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/mhgoldberg.com\/blog\/?p=13414","title":{"rendered":"The myth of MVNO savings"},"content":{"rendered":"<p>Yesterday, Michael Geist released <a href=\"http:\/\/j.mp\/38Fy8cP\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer\" target=\"_blank\">a podcast<\/a> that plays more as an infomercial to promote <a href=\"http:\/\/j.mp\/38BEKsu\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer\" target=\"_blank\">Ting Mobile<\/a>, a Canadian based company that operates as a Mobile Virtual Network Operator (MVNO) in the United States. <\/p>\n<p>According to the podcast, Ting&#8217;s services ride on the Sprint network in the US, but claims that Bell, TELUS and Rogers have not been willing to &#8216;play ball&#8217; with Ting in Canada. It is not clear whether Ting attempted to strike a deal with the smaller players in Canada, just as it did in the US. Indeed, later in the podcast, Noss says that only &#8216;2 of the 3 turned us down&#8217;. There was no follow-up asking about the third.  <\/p>\n<p>Ting&#8217;s principal, Elliott Noss, says that the prices Canadians pay are &#8216;heinous&#8217;, yet an examination of Ting&#8217;s own prices shows that Canadians already pay less than what Ting charges its customers. <\/p>\n<p>I took a look at the CRTC&#8217;s service baskets, defined in its <a href=\"http:\/\/j.mp\/38EhYQI\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer\" target=\"_blank\">Communications Monitoring Report<\/a>, and checked <a href=\"http:\/\/j.mp\/39NscP6\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer\" target=\"_blank\">Ting&#8217;s rates<\/a> versus offers publicly available on Canadian service provider websites. <\/p>\n<p><a href=\"https:\/\/mhgoldberg.com\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2020\/02\/Ting.jpg\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" src=\"https:\/\/mhgoldberg.com\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2020\/02\/Ting.jpg\" alt=\"\" width=\"898\" height=\"144\" class=\"aligncenter size-full wp-image-13415\" srcset=\"https:\/\/mhgoldberg.com\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2020\/02\/Ting.jpg 898w, https:\/\/mhgoldberg.com\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2020\/02\/Ting-300x48.jpg 300w, https:\/\/mhgoldberg.com\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2020\/02\/Ting-768x123.jpg 768w, https:\/\/mhgoldberg.com\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2020\/02\/Ting-150x24.jpg 150w, https:\/\/mhgoldberg.com\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2020\/02\/Ting-400x64.jpg 400w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 898px) 100vw, 898px\" \/><\/a><\/p>\n<p>At the CRTC&#8217;s price basket level 1, Ting would save Canadians 13 cents per month. For every other basket, Ting isn&#8217;t close.<\/p>\n<p>Noss made a number of other assertions that were unchallenged by Professor Geist, such as a statement that many countries have regulated mandatory access to MVNOs. This is simply not true. While the podcast is certainly entertaining to listen to, too frequently, the guest&#8217;s assertions are left unchecked and simply don&#8217;t stand up to scrutiny. <\/p>\n<p>Noss claims [around the 28:30 mark in the podcast]: &#8220;Michael, I will tell you right here on this podcast, look we&#8217;re an MVNO in the US; it&#8217;s 10 times the market. If I could have right now an offer from the CRTC for liberalized MVNO on exactly the terms that we want and we couldn&#8217;t enter the market, I would take it in a second.&#8221; In reality, Ting operates in the US where MVNO&#8217;s are not mandated by the regulator and it offers services at prices higher than what Canadians are already paying.<\/p>\n<p>The CRTC should be cautious and Commissioners should deeply probe assertions that are made later today when Ting&#8217;s parent company, Tucows, appears. And frankly, we should demand more critical inquiry from our academics who are asked to inform Canadians on these issues.<\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>Yesterday, Michael Geist released a podcast that plays more as an infomercial to promote Ting Mobile, a Canadian based company that operates as a Mobile Virtual Network Operator (MVNO) in the United States. According to the podcast, Ting&#8217;s services ride on the Sprint network in the US, but claims that Bell, TELUS and Rogers have &hellip;<\/p>\n<p class=\"read-more\"> <a class=\"\" href=\"https:\/\/mhgoldberg.com\/blog\/?p=13414\"> <span class=\"screen-reader-text\">The myth of MVNO savings<\/span> Read More &raquo;<\/a><\/p>\n","protected":false},"author":1,"featured_media":0,"comment_status":"open","ping_status":"open","sticky":false,"template":"","format":"standard","meta":{"_uag_custom_page_level_css":"","two_page_speed":[],"footnotes":""},"categories":[1],"tags":[],"class_list":["post-13414","post","type-post","status-publish","format-standard","hentry","category-uncategorized"],"yoast_head":"<!-- This site is optimized with the Yoast SEO plugin v27.4 - https:\/\/yoast.com\/product\/yoast-seo-wordpress\/ -->\n<title>The myth of MVNO savings &#8226; Telecom Trends<\/title>\n<meta name=\"description\" content=\"Yesterday, Michael Geist released a podcast that plays more as an infomercial to promote Ting Mobile, a Canadian based company that operates as a Mobile &#8226; 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